Hosts Gabrielle and Jody continue their conversation with Joe. Joe shares personal experiences with shadow figures marching and playing drums in a field and shadow figures at the Scranton Cultural Center. The discussion continues with the ethical aspects of paranormal investigations, the significance of sacred and historical sites, and the potential for meaningful interactions with spirits and other entities - through the lens of experience.

Gabrielle introduces Jody to Joe Dea, a former colleague and investigator. We discuss our evolving approach to paranormal investigations, emphasizing ethics, skepticism, and people-first methods. Key topics include notable past encounters, the importance of trauma-informed training, and the potential for negative encounters.

In this episode we discuss day versus night investigations, what to look out for within the field of the paranormal, how to protect yourself during investigations and our pet peeves.